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[PaulInBHC]

Hallo
Ich bin diese in Google Translate schriftlich. Ich hoffe, es funktioniert besser, vom Englischen ins Deutsche als von Deutsch nach Englisch.
Ich habe versucht, ASC seit 2.1.0 zu verstehen. Vor kurzem habe ich herausgefunden, über Google Translate. Ich habe jetzt in der Lage, Beiträge im Forum und dem Handbuch Webseite (Einsteigerguide) zu lesen.
Mit Ubuntu 10,04 alpha, installierte ich 2.3.79.0 von der Quelle. Ich öffnete den ersten vier Tutorial-Kampagne Dateien. d. h. tut000.map.de_DE in gedit. Ich speicherte sie als TXT-Dateien in einen anderen Ordner. Ich habe die Funktion ein Dokument hochladen, um sie Tranlate. Dann kopieren Sie die englische Version, eine neue txt-Datei. Ich speichere die Datei unter einem anderen Namen, dh tut000.txt und tut000e.txt. Ich habe dann verwendet speichern unter ... zu überschreiben das Original. map.de_DE Datei.
Ich dachte, das würde funktionieren, aber das Spiel noch zeigt der deutsche Text bei der Angabe des Tutorials Kampagne.
Any ideas? Oder soll ich warten, bis 2.4.0?
Ich denke, ich werde dieses Spiel zu genießen, wenn ich herausfinden können, wie die Dinge funktionieren.
Ist das Englisch Forum tot?

English just in case...
Hello
I am writing this in google translate. I hope it works better from English to German than from German to English.
I have been trying to understand ASC since 2.1.0. I recently found out about google translate. I have now been able to read forum posts and the game guide webpage (Einsteigerguide).
Using Ubuntu 10.04 alpha, I installed 2.3.79.0 from the source. I opened the first four tutorial campaign files. i.e. tut000.map.de_DE in gedit. I saved them as txt files in another folder. I used the upload a document function to tranlate them. Then copy and paste the English version to a new txt file. I save that file with a different name, i.e. tut000.txt and tut000e.txt. I then used save as... to overwrite the original .map.de_DE file.
I thought this would work but the game still displays the German text when stating the tutorial campaign.
Any ideas? Or should I wait until 2.4.0?
I think I will enjoy this game once I can figure out how things work.
Is the English forum dead?

[TheCoder]

Hi,

you don't need to translate your texts into German, here are enough people who can speak English quite well.
There have been only very few users writing in the English language forum, which is the reason why the English forum has been neglected for some time...

Regarding the tutorial campaign: we are right now busy translating it into English. If you fetch the latest nightly build, more than half of the maps are already translated. And I expect to finish this weekend. When you fetch the source (either through CVS or tarball), you will find the en_EN files in the data/campaigns/tutorial directory.
If you could give some feedback or even do proofreading, that would be greatly appreciated!

Once a map has been started, you cannot change the language any more. That's probably the reason why your translation attempts were unsuccessful. The message texts are embedded in the map, so you only have to manage a single file for savegames or PBEM games.

[PaulInBHC]

Thank you for the reply.

I check the nightly builds often and noticed all the translation posts. I wasn't sure if it meant language translation or something with coding. At any rate, I thought my time might have been wasted if those were language translations.

If I delete my save files, will that restart the campaign and allow me to see the English files that I created?

I grabbed the main.asctxt last night and took the chance to overwrite the original. It seems to work.

When the new source (tarball) is ready, do I need to configure/compile it again as a new install or can I add files to my 2.3.79.0 ?

I would be willing to proofread the translations. Being American my English is... lol. But I do use s not z (minimise), colour not color, can use 25Dec instead of 12/25, etc.

Thanks again

Paul

Edit, I found this in the knowledgebase

http://terdon.asc-hq.org/knowledgebase/show.php?ID=91

changed my options language to en_US, saved the txt as .map.en_US but it still doesn't work. I can't find any save files either.

[TheCoder]

You don't need to delete your saves, you should just be aware that all language or translation changes take only effect after you start a new map. So if you load a savegame it will continue with the old text. Since the tutorial doesn't have any long-lasting events, you can just go the base camp (green fields in most levels). That would be already be a new level. And start your topic again, which again is a fresh level start.

The changes to the program code since 2.3.79.0 are right now quite minimal, so updating the main.ascdat is sufficient to get the latest version. When you fetch a new tarball, do a configure && make && make install , which will overwrite the older version. All savegames will still be usable, so you don't lose anything by doing an update.

Changing the language in game options is only necessary if you want to override the default language of the operating system. But I expect that to be already en_US for you.

[PaulInBHC]

I forgot about hidden folders and found the saves in the .asc folder. Deleted them but it didn't change. From your post I see why.

The last tarball contained a folder 2.3.79.0 with all the files. I did cd /home/paul/asc-2.3.79.0 and ran the ./configure then make then install. Will the next tarball contain a new folder? If so, will I then have two installs when finished?

[TheCoder]

On which page are you looking for the downloads? The latest version available is 2.3.72.2:

http://terdon.asc-hq.org/MyWiki/NightlyBuilds
http://terdon.asc-hq.org/asc/builds/asc ... .2.tar.bz2

These tarballs contain the translated files in the data/campaign/tutorial folder. These are compressed during build into the main.ascdat

[PaulInBHC]

Yes, I am familiar with the nightly builds page. I am new to Ubuntu. For Windows beta testing, I either uninstall an old build and then install a new build, or extract files from a zip and overwrite older files.
For Battle for Wesnoth on Ubuntu, I have been compiling each build in the folder from the tarball, keeping the previous version in it's folder. If the new version works well, I later uninstall the older build.

The changes to the program code since 2.3.79.0 are right now quite minimal, so updating the main.ascdat is sufficient to get the latest version. When you fetch a new tarball, do a configure && make && make install , which will overwrite the older version. All savegames will still be usable, so you don't lose anything by doing an update.

This confused me. There is both a new main.ascdat and tarball. I don't think I need both. You also state "which will overwrite the older version". I am assuming that if I cd to the 79.2 folder, then compile, I will have a new install, not overwrite 79.0

[TheCoder]

Every version will uncompress into its own folder, becaues the folder name contains the version number.
So compiling a new version does not affect any older one.
But if you do a "make install" , then ASC will be installed in /usr/local (unless you specified a different prefix at configure) and will overwrite the previously installed version.

If you want to have several versions in parallel, there are two options:
- either install them in distinct directories: ./configure --prefix=/home/username/asc-2.3.79.2
- or run them without installing, which requires you to maintain distinct configuration files that contain the path to the data files. You then start with (for example) asc -c ~/ascrc-79.2

The tarball contains everything you need. The seperate main.ascdat that is offered for download is primarily targeted at windows users.

[PaulInBHC]

Sorry if I am asking too many questions.
From the 79.2 folder I ran configure then make then make install. (&& didn't work)
I have user/local/share/games/asc with dlg.zip and main.ascdat
To run the game I have to go to the 79.2 folder and find the exe. Then I make a launcher on my desktop. There is no shortcut anywhere that I can find like windows has.
The good new is that I started 79.2 and the tutorial campaign is in English. Thanks for that. I no longer have all that work to use google etc.
I will go through the translations and look for syntax and spelling improvements.

Thanks yet again.

[TheCoder]

It's usual at Linux that packages compiled from source don't add shortcuts for your Destop / Start Menu / Whatever your WindowManager has.

So you are doing the right thing by locating the executable making a link yourself.
make install will also copy the executable to /usr/local/bin, so you can link from there. That would allow you to delete the source folder and still use ASC.

Alternative, just type asc in a terminal window (I know, the Linux shell is probably not the first thing that windows users will love about Linux